“… by the Soviets to the US. 9 And you have recounted the strange nature of the information. 10 provided by Nosenko. 11 740000 1 ! Mr. Angleton. Correct. 12 Mr. Schwarz. Let me ask you another line of questions OMVM 13 about each one of these items. As to the Nosenko informati …”
“… +eci, S £. 22 Mr. Schwarz. Why did you say a moment ago that it was 23 suppressed? 23 i Because I never knew where it went. When Mr. Angleton. 25 TOP SECRET rage #”
“… cepted 2 the fact that the man was a provocation. 3 Mr. Schwarz. Do you mean provocation, or providing ■1 false information? 5 Mr. Angleton. An Agent Provocateur. 6 I said he was false. My man said he was false. And it 7 isn't a parrot affair, each one reads the same stuff a …”
“… ided 5 with the opinion of persons such as yourself and others as you 6 have recounted that he was providing false information? 7 Mr. Angleton. I don't think the Warren Commission was 8 ever faced with the issue of the internal issues of Golitzen (Cli 9 r Nosenko. 10 Mr. Sc …”
“… ents and articles, and so on. 22 Mr. Schwarz. But your current understanding is that the 23 1 information was provided? 24; vtr Mr. Angleton. That was classified, and never came out in 25 TOP SECRET NW 00933 Docld:32423393 Page 78”
“‘a 17 TOP SECRET 76 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 public. 1 Mr. Schwarz. But was nevertheless provided to the 2 Commission? Mr. Angleton. It was made known to them in some fashion. 4 Mr. Schwarz. Was it made known to them at the same time 5 that at leat certain experts wi …”
“… say that as far as that matter goes 8 there is no possibility that anybody on the Warren Commission 1 9 was fooled? 1 !/!3 10 Mr. Angleton. I mean, I don't think anybody was. I 11 PPcra didn't follow the Warren Commission, Rocha followed it, and he W ARD a PAUL 12 was run …”
“… that were no longer germain to his position on the matter. 3 Mr. Schwarz. Was there a connection between the FBI and 4 Oswald? 5 Mr. Angleton. I don't know the full FBI story. I know 6 there was a tremendous flap in the Bureau. And one of the best 7 . men they had in my view i …”
“21 008 ,€5 TOP SECRET 80 Phone (Area 2021 544-6000 report. What was that report? 1 Mr. Angleton. At one stage in all of this — and it was 2 much later, after all the dust settled -- Helms got the Inspector General, who had come fro …”
“19 Mr. Schwarz. You said Warren Commission. You mean 20 Rockefeller? 21| Mr. Angleton. Excuse me, Rockefeller. . . 22 4 1 0 F ir s t S tre e t, There are 20 some odd cases that a counterinte11igence 23 il officer in …”
“a 23 TOP SECRET jo e 82 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 r Mr. Schwarz. Was this Mr. Ermine? 1 Mr. Angleton. No, he was never brought. He was Gordon 2 Stewart -- and he is retired - a very able man, and a fine executive. And I mean this sincer …”
“… the Cuban business. And we have had a lot of testimony about Mr. Harvey, so we ‘t are moderately well aware of his activities. 5 Mr. Angleton. I am sorry. 6 Mr. Schwarz. We know who Mr. Harvy is and we have had a 7 fair amount of testimony about some of the things he had done. …”
“… ned. In other words, they had the thing penetrated, and 1 it was foredoomed. 2 Mr. Schwarz. Through the exile community in Miami? Mr. Angleton. No, through Soviet agents and everything, 4 and so on, there was no cover or second investigation or 5 anything. 6 So when Bill took …”
“course, 410 F irst S treet, S.E.. W ashington, D.C. ?0003 19 Dick Helms. 20 Mr. Schwarz. McCone? 21 Mr. Angleton. I can't remember whether — yes, McCone 22 would have know, but he wouldn't have been interested. 23 What I am trying to say is, he kne …”
“a S 20 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 26 TOP SECRET 85 Mr. Angleton. He knew, because even before I went into 1 this I told him what I was going to do, and he agreed, and 2 so on. 3 And also I wanted a …”
“… you went up and made a fuss to Mr. McCone about. 5 Mr. Schwarz. Did you know Mr. Harvey pretty well, was 6 he someone you knew? 7 Mr. Angleton. Very well indeed. In fact, I just called 8 him the other day, his mother died. d 9 Mr. Schwarz. I heard that. & i : 0009/2 10 Di …”
“… P SECRET 88 thought it was Bill. And they were checking with Papich. what to do. to Mr. Schwarz. That was Mr. Roselli, was it? Mr. Angleton. I think it was. Mr. Kirbow, And the Bill you speak of here is Bill Harvey? Mr. Angleton. Bill Harvey. So I could get the gist of B …”
“… anaged to get him. And I turned the 8 phone over to Papich, because I did not want to be on the IC iil 9 record showing that this was Angleton, et cetera. 10 And Papich talked to Bill, and actually I didn't hear 11 It was something about, I will see you • PAUL the discussion …”
“any help out of him in that regard? 21 Mr. Angleton. He knows that I would have cut his throat. 22 Mr. Kirbow. That would have jeopardized your entire 23 contact with the Israeli's? 24 …”
“… pport to 18 the Israelis." ", O.C. 20003 L9 Do you have,” knowledge that the CI was charged with such 2:0 responsibilities? The Mr. Angleton. Absolutely to the contrary 35 Senator Tower. "--Angleton directed the e t?" AMs.”
“Angleton. False. 1 /3 0 24 Senator Tower. That it totally false? v E Mr. Angleton. That is totally false. TOP SECRET NW 50955 Docld:324233 …”
“… RET 91 Phone (Alee 202) $44-4000 7 "Several nuclear scientists were secretly sent to Israel to work with Dimona scientists." D Mr. Angleton. False. I will interject here that the French sent 400 as a matter of the original deal with the Israeli’s to Dimona. Senator Tower. T …”
“… he Israelies from United States stocks." 20 AIMr. Schwarz. As far as your are concerned s that / 211 statement right or wrong? 22 Mr. Angleton. I am saying, when he says deny i deny 23 it. / Senator Tower. I think it was taken care f in that TOP SECRET we NW 9HH Page”
“… A would be hard put to transfer any fissionable materials without the knowledge of the Atomic -Energy Commission, would it not?s %Mr. Angleton. Sir, I can assure you that the CIA -- I On don‘t really know what the word fissionable means anymore. Ch L There is much use of the …”
“… material. PAUL 12 & Senator Tower. Dave? W ARD 13 Mr. Aaron. Two small points. Mr. Szulc said that "In 76000 14 & % effect Mr. Angleton said at one point that should I surface 15 Mr. Mann's name, Dr. Mann's name, he may go as far as to 16 commit suicide W, 17 Did you e …”
“… be the entire information on Mann and Philby, et cetera. 7 10 Mr. Aaron. Let me just read one other segment of his 11 [ testimony: "Angleton said after recounting the story f the PAUL 12 transfer of atomic technology Mr. Szulc went on and said, W ARD & 13 Angleton said tha …”
“… nable material such 4 1 0 F ir s t S tr e e t, S .C ., W a s h in g to n , D .C . 2 0 0 0 3 19 as plutonium or ther material." 20 Mr. Angleton. I don't follow that at all. 2J Mr. Aaron. Did you make those two corrections. 22 Mr. Angleton. I don't understand what you are saying. …”
“… o you was in terms of trying to bring out that you did not agree with his story, that you did, not 5 confirm the validity of it. 4 Mr. Angleton. That part is correct. But I am not follow- 5 ing this last part you are reading. wee.. 6 5 7 Mr . Aaron . Let me show it to yourand …”
“Street, S.E.. 22 Mr. Angleton. And this is false: "one or more 23 distinguished pure scientists or physicists whose services were available to the US Government", th …”
“am TOP SECRET s 137 . s4 t o 96 C . Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 Mr. Aaron. Let me ask ona last question. Mr. Angleton. When I say technical assistance, that is a quite different matter. 3 Mr. Kirbow. You do not mean technical assistance in the 4 nucle …”
“and nuclear weapon development? 22 Mr. Angleton. That subject wasn't in existence. 23 Mr. Aaron. Mr. Angleton, is it possible that one source 43 0 1 v 244 of this story could be all …”
“… hone (Area 202) 544-4000 intelligence service in the US in regard to the efforts toll acquire nuclear technology or material? 2 3 Mr. Angleton. No. Let me just state my own feeling about some this. 4 After ,talked to me about having all those great sources 5 which were better …”
“… S .C .. W a s h in g to n , D .C . 2 0 0 0 3 19 nuclear technology or information that would have a bearing 20 on this story? 21 Mr. Angleton. There have been many efforts b many 22 countries to acquire technical knowledge in this country, and 23 that doesn't exclude the Israe …”
“OP SECRET sedre ‘ ,2 . to n 98‘ Phone (Area 2021 $44-6000 e you were employed with the Agency, Mr. Angleton? I believe that might be a fair question. Senator Tower. In your capacity as Head of Counter- , 5 6 -intelligence, dlaRst ever come to …”
“,40. TOP SECRET 47 99; Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 Mr. Angleton, Interrogated, or processed. Senator Mathias. And that the implication certainly of to this was that Oswald was an ex-Marine, and had …”
“… way we treat them. And 10 In that connection, to your knowledge was Oswald every 11 interrogated when he returned from Russia? 12 Mr. Angleton. I don't know I probably would know, but 13 I don't know whether the military — normally that would fall 14 within the jurisdiction of …”
“him. 20 Senator Mathias. The Bureau, not the CIA? 21 Mr. Angleton. I am certain we never did, no. 22 Senator Mathias. But you think the FBI did? 23 : Mr. Angleton. That is just my sensation that they d …”
“… s. 10S f "Senator Mathias. My recollection is, he came with one 11 •person with him, whose name I don’t remember." • PAUL I 12 Mr. Angleton. If the Bureau had him under surveillance, 13 “ 0 and he came here now, I am getting onto”ground I don't 14 44 0 know — the newspap …”
“… Russia. And may/ see Arbatov in Moscow, I would assume it would be likely. Would that 6 VBR 7 8 become a continuing entry in Mr. Angleton. such a dossier as far as you know? We don't have any coverage in Moscow. . Senator Mathi . Is that the kind of thing that 1 !1 !0 …”
“… passed or some of the stuff which was passed. to. Senator Mathias. ; Assuming a file was set up on that lunch two years ago -- — Mr. Angleton. The file wouldn't be set up there on the fact — wills your name on it, it would the Soviets, and O you would be buried in the file, wh …”
“… In other words, you are saying what a political friend of mine once said, that you don’t get news unless you makemnews? Yek 7 6 Mr. Angleton. That is one way of looking at it. Senator Mathias. That is all, Mr . Chairman. 18 Mr. Angleton. I want to commend you again”
“490 P SECRET 108 so 1 Senator Baker. What would you do, Mr. Angleton, to try to rehabilitate the Agency,in particular in counterintelli- gence capability, since you feel that it is deteriorating, what thi …”
“… to more than one authoity is chaos. And I am not making any puns. W Senator Baker. To be responsible to the Congress and to the Mr. Angleton. The word response is what disturbs me somewhat, because the secrets that we have just been discussing O here are so germain to everyt …”
“… o keep an eye inside 20 21 22 A =ator baker. the business. Commission reports? What do you think of the Rockefeller . 23 "Mr. Angleton. I don't see anything wrong with it. i s i g O tt 24 Senator Baker. Do you think it will work? TOP SECRET NW 30950 Docld:32423393 Pa …”
“52 TOP SECRET 1117 Mr. Angleton, I really don't know thia area. So I am Phone (A7-s-2023.5 A not competent to speak or go around seeing what will happen Lin Congress, …”
“… RECORD NUMBER: 157-10014-10006 RECORD SERIES : HEARINGS AGENCY FILE NUMBER: 01-H-08 Document Information ORIGINATOR : SSCSGO FROM: ANGLETON, JAMES; MILER, SCOTTY TO : TITLE: DATE : 01/22/1976 PAGES: 74 SUBJECTS : ANGLETON, JAMES CIA, METHODOLOGY MILER, SCOTTY DEFECTO …”
“… ECORD NUMBER : 157-10014-10006 RECORDS SERIES : HEARINGS AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 01-H-08 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : SSCSGO FROM : ANGLETON, JAMES; MILER, SCOTTY TO : TITLE : DATE : 01/22/76 PAGES : 74 SUBJECTS : ANGLETON, JAMES COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CIA, METHODOLOGY FBI …”
“? th P i t lee ‘#, 1 OP SEC W AVA Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 1 CONTENTS 2 TESTIMONY OF: PAGE 3 James Angleton —accompanied by— 4 Scotty Miler 3 5 6 7 8 n 9 107, 10 11 W ARD k PAUL ! 12 13 0 14 V J9 15 16 17 18 41 …”
“… u swear the testimony you're about to give will be ON the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? C Mr. Angleton. I do. Mr. Miler. I do. CD Senator Hart of Colorado. Thank you very much. 1 !6 2 wwrerng Mr. Angleton at least has been before us …”
“IB MW -Phone (Area 202) Md TOP SECRET 1 TESTIMONY OF JAMES ANGLETON © 2 . ACCOMPANIED BY SCOTTY MILER 3 Mr. Johnson. I wonder if we could begin by having both 4 of your gentlemen give us some informat …”