“e recommendations to the House, if the 001146 NMV 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 6. ALDERSON REPORTI NG C OMPANY, INC. 1-5 1 2 3 5 ό 7 00 Select Committee de ems it appropriat e, for the amendment of existing l egislation or the enactment of new legislation. I would l ike, because of ”
“Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 o'clock a.m., in Room 318, Russell Senate Office Bui ldi ng, the honorable Frank Church (Chairman of the Commit tee ) presiding. Present: Senators Church (presiding), Hart of Mi chigan, Mondale, Huddleston, Hart of Colorado, Bak er, Gol”
“pursuant to notice, at 10:10 o'clock a.m., in Room 318, Russell Senate Office Building, the honorabl e Frank Church (Chairman of the Committee) presiding. Present: Senators Church (presiding), Hart of Michigan, Mondale, Huddleston, Hart of Colorado, Baker, Goldwater and Mathias. ”
“8, Russell Senate Office Building, the honorable Frank Church (Chairman of the Committee) presiding. Present: Senators Church (presiding), Hart of Michigan, Mondale, Huddleston, Hart of Colorado, Baker, Goldwater and Mathias. Also present: William G. Miller, Staff Director; Frede”
“isting legislation or the enactment of new legisl at ion. I would like, because o f the special e xp ert ise of th is witness, if counsel will withhold for just a moment, say a word or two about the process that we are engaged in. First, we commend you for your long years of serv”
“Counsel, and myself meeting each one individually. It was pointed out to all that: (1) Their appearance before the Committee was voluntary; the Agency was not directing them to appear, but, of course, the Committee had the power of subpoena. 2 Signer - # 4182”
“Berning, D. Hardway, B. Wolf, M. Goldsmith, R. Morrison, R. Genzman, K. Klein and W. Cross. Mr. Prey er. (The Committee will come to order. The Chair recognizes the clerk of the Committee to read 19 us a record of those members who are officially designated 20 21 to be on the Sub”
“Pre yer (C hai rma n o f th e S ubcommittee) presiding. Repr esentatives Preyer, Dodd, Fithian and P resent: 13 Sawyer. 1 5 17 18 Also present: G. R. Blakey, G. C ornwell, E. Berning, D. Hardway, B. Wolf, M. Goldsmith, R . Morrison, R. Genzman, K. Klein and W. Cross. Mr. Preyer. ”
“islation. I would like, because of th e s pecial expertise of this witness, if counsel will with hol d for just a moment, say a word or two about the process tha t we are engaged in. First, we commend you for your lo ng years of service I to a very, very important agency of this ”
“Russell Senate Office Buil di ng, the honorab le Frank Church (Chairman of the Commi ttee) presidin g. Present: Senators Church (presiding), Hart of Michigan, Mondale, Huddleston, Hart of Colorado, Baker, Goldwater and Mathias. Also present: William G. Miller, Staff Director; Fre”
“54955 DocId: 32989494 NW 65994 Do cld:32174412 Page 7 i : J ر R *sm n 16 C C Ph on e (A re a 20 2) 5 44-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 1901 1 Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give 2 before this Committee is the truth, the whole”
“tudy Governmental 7 8 9 Operations with Respect to I ntelligence Activities, Washingto n, D. C. 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 1.6 17 18 19 20 21 The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 o'clock a.m., in Room 318, Russell Senate Office Building, the honorable Frank Church (Chairman of”
“20 21 22 23 24 25 NW 65 99 4 Docld:32989809 Page 6 WARD & PAUL AHW/smnl Phone (Ar ea 202) 5 44- 600 0 1 IN TEL LIG ENCE INVESTIGATION 2447 2 3 Wednesday, December 10, 1975 4 5 United States Senate, 6 Select Committee to Study Governmental 7 8 9 Operations with Respect to Intellig”
“to the House, if the 001146 NMV 66 000 Do cld:32277224 Page 6. ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 1-5 1 2 3 5 ό 7 00 Select Committee deems it appropriate, for th e a mendment of existing legislation or the enactment of new legi sla tio n. I would like, because of the special exper”
“lts will be forwarded on *a periodic basis as soon as possible. 1 The Attorney General NW 65994 Docl d:32989641 Page 4 FRANK CHURCH, IDAHO. CHIAIRMAN JOWN G. TOWER, TEXAS, VIC: CHATRIM PHILIP A. HART, MICH. WALTER.F. MONDALE, ΜΙΝΗ, WALTER D. HUDOLESTON, Κ.Υ. ROOERT MORGAN, N.C. G”
“nothin g 3 but t he truth, so help you Go d? 4 Mr. Adams. I do. 5 Mr. Wannall. I do. 6 Mr. Mintz. I d o. 7 Mr. Deegan. I do. 8 Mr. Schackelford. I do. 9 Mr. Newman. I do. 10 Mr. Grigalus. I do. 11 Mr. Kelley. I do. 12 Senat or T ower. It is intended that. Mr. Wannall will be 13 t”
“on , D .C. Th e S ubc omm itt ee met , p ursuant to notice, at 9:15 a.m. in room 1310, Longworth Hou se Office Building, Hon. Richardson Preyer (Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding. Representatives Preyer, Dodd, Fithian and Present: 13 Sawyer. 15 17 18 Also present: G. R. Bla”
“Section Chief, sup erv ises extremist informants; Mr. Edward P. Grigalu, Unit Chi ef, su per vis es subversive informants; Joseph G. Kolicy, Assistant Section Chief, Civil Rights Section, Generi Inv gative Division. Gentlemen, will you all rise and be sworn. 410 First Street, S.E”
“S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 NW#:54955 DocId: 32989494 NW 65994 Docld:32174412 Page 7 i : J ر R *sm n 1 6 C C Pho ne (Ar ea 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washingt on, D.C. 20003 1901 1 Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give 2 before this Com”
“rrison, R. Genzman, K. Klein and W. Cross. Mr . Preyer. (The Committee will come to order. The Chair rec ogn ize s the clerk of the Committee to read 19 us a record of th ose members who are officially designated 20 21 to be on the Subcommittee today , p urs uant to Committee Rul”
“lligence before answering the question. CIA INTERNAL USE ONLY. NW 65924 Docld:32354856 Page 11 DRAFT It is my opinion that the Committee would not continue to insist in the face of these responses from you. However, were it to do so, you must at this point use your own judgment a”
“*FRANK CHURCH, IDAHO, CHAIRMAN JOHN G. TOWER, TEXAS, VICE CHAIRMAN PHILIP A. HART, MICH. - HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., TENN. WALTER F. MONDALE, MINN. BARRY GOLDWATER, ARIZ. WALTER D. HUDDLESTON, KY. CHARLES MC C. MATHIAS, JR., MD. Alnited States Senate ROBERT MORGAN, N.C. & RICH”
“ma ke recommendations to the House, if the 001146 NMV 66 000 Do cld :322 772 24 Pag e 6. ALDERSON R EPORTING COMPANY, INC. 1-5 1 2 3 5 ό 7 00 Select Committee deems it appropriate, for the amendment of existing legislation or the enactment of new legislation. I would like, becaus”
“Gentlemen, will you all rise and be sworn. 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 NW#:54955 DocId: 32989494 NW 65994 Docld:32174412 Page 7 i : J ر R *smn 16 C C Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 1901 1 Do you solemnly swe”
“Chair recognizes the clerk of the Committee to read 19 us a record of those members who are official ly designated 20 21 to be on the Subcommittee today, pursuant to Committee Rule 12.3. 22 23 The Clerk. Mr. Chairman, you, Mr. Thone, Mr. Sawyer 24 25 and Mr. Dodd are regular memb”
“the clerk of the Committee to read 19 us a record of those members who are o fficially designated 2 0 21 to be on the Subcommittee today, pursuant to Commit tee Rule 12.3 . 22 23 The Clerk. Mr. C hairman, you, Mr. Thone, Mr. Sawyer 24 25 and Mr. Dodd are regular members of the Su”
“ng, Hon. Richardson Preyer (Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding. Representatives Preyer, D od d, Fithian and Present: 13 Sawyer. 15 17 18 Also present: G. R. Blakey, G. Cornwell, E. Berning, D. Hardway, B. Wolf, M. Gol ds mith, R. Morrison, R. Genzman, K. Klein and W. Cross. ”
“vest- gative Division. Gentlemen, will you all rise and be sworn. NW 65994 Docld:32989520 Page 6 C C 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 WARD & PAUL Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 smn 16 1901 1 Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give 2 before this Committe”
“rt of Michigan, 18 19 Mondale, Huddleston, Morgan, Hart of Colorado, Mathias and Schweiker. 20 21 22 Also present: William Miller, Staff Director, F.A.O. Schwarz, III, Chief Counsel; Curtis R. Smothers, Minority Counsel; William Bader, Professional Staff Member. 23 24 Photocopy f”
“( C FRANK CHURCH, IDAHO, CHAIRMAN JOHN G. TOWER,TEXAS, VICE CHAIRMAN PHILIP A. HART, MICH. HOWARD H. BAKER, TENN. WALTER F. MONDALE, MINS, BARRY GOLDWATER WALTER D. HUDDLESTON, KY. CHARLES MCC. MA E JR., MD. ROBERT MORGAN, N.C. RICHARD S. SCHWEIR PA. GARY HART, COLO. WILL”
“he Subcommittee) presiding. Representatives Preyer, Dodd, Fithian and Present: 13 Sawyer. 15 17 18 A lso present: G. R. Blakey, G. Cornwell, E. Berning, D. Hardway, B. Wolf, M. Gol ds mit h, R. Mo rri son , R . G enz man , K . K lein and W. Cross. Mr. Preyer. (The Committee will ”
“ernal security and foreign counterintelligence investigations; Mr. John A. Mintz, Assistant Direc to r, Legal Counsel Division; Joseph G. Deegan, Section Chief, extremist investigations; Mr. Robert L. Schackelford, Section Chief, subversive investigations; Mr. Homer A. Newman, Jr”
“n, K. Klein an d W. Cross. Mr. P rey er. (T he Com mit tee will come to order. The Chair recognize s the clerk of the Committee to read 19 us a record of thos e members who are officially designated 20 21 to be on the S ub committee today, pursuant to Committee Rule 12.3 . 22 23 ”
“a motion to go into Executive 2 3 Session at this time. Mr. Sawyer. I so move, Mr. Chairman. 5 M r. Preyer. There has been a motion that today's ό 7 0 0 9 10 i 12 13. 4 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 hearing,cone th at the hearing be held in Executive Sessio n. This is on the basis that”
“000 Docld:32105805 Page 5 1 2 ان 3 4 5 6 The nearing will come to order. Mr. Scott Breckinridg e i s accompanying the Director this morning and may be called up on from time to time to testify. For that purpo se, Mr. Breckinridge, will you please stand and be sworn ? D o y ou swe”
“e 7 i : J ر R *smn 16 C C Phon e (A re a 202 ) 5 44- 600 0 W ARD & PAU L 4 10 Fir st Stree t, S.E ., Washington, D.C. 20003 1901 1 Do you sole mnly swear the testimony you are about to give 2 befo re this Committee is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing 3 bu t the truth, so h”
“ir will entertain a motion to go into Executive 2 3 Session at this time. Mr. Sawyer. I so move, Mr. Chairman. 5 Mr. Preyer. There has been a motion that today's ό 7 00 9 10 i 12 13. 4 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 hearing,cone that the hear ing be held in Executive Session. This is on”
“ANK CHURCH, IDAHO, CHAIRMAN JOH N G. TOWER, TEXAS, VICE CHAIRMAN PHILIP A. HART, MICH, WALTER F. MON DALE, MINN. WALTER D. HUDDLESTON, KY. ROBERT MORGAN, N.C. GARY HART, COL O. HOWARD H. B AKER, JR., TENN. BARRY GOLDWATER , ARIZ. CHARLES MC C. MATHIAS, JR. , M D. RIC HARD S. SCHW”
“There has been a motion that today's ό 7 00 9 10 i 12 13. 4 15 16 17 18 1 9 20 21 2 2 he ar in g,con e that the hearing be held in Executive Session. This is on the basis that information obtained by the Committee, that the evidence or testimony may tend to degrade or incriminate”
“7 8 9 10 11 WARD & PAUL 12 1 3 14 1 5 1 16 1 7 1 8 4 10 Fir st Str eet , S.E., Washin gton, D.C. 200 03 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 NW 65994 Docld:32989809 Page 6 WARD & PAUL AHW/smnl Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 1 INTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATION 2447 2 3 Wednesday, December 10, 1975 4 5 United”
“2 13 1 .4 1 5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Senator Tower.. The next witnesses to appear before t he Committee are Mr. James Adams, Assista nt to the Director- Deputy Associate Director, Investiga ti on, responsible for all investigative operations; Mr. W. R ay mo nd Wannall, Ass”
“N JOWN G. TOWER, TEXAS, VIC: CHATRIM PHILIP A. HART, MICH. WALTER.F. MONDALE, ΜΙΝΗ, WALTER D. HUDOLE STON, Κ.Υ. ROOERT MORGAN, N.C. GARY HART, COLO. HOWARD H. JAKER, JR., TENN. PARRY GOLDWATER, ARIZ. CHARLES MCC. MATHIAS, JR., MD. RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, PA WILLIAM G. MILLER, STAFF”
“LER, STAFF DIRECTOR FREDERICK A. O. SCHWARZ, JR., CHIEF COUNSEL CURTIS R. SMOTHERS, MINORITY COUNSEL United States Senate SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (PURSUANT TO S. RES. 21, 14TH CONGRESS) WASHINGTON, D.C. 20510 ADVIC”
“WRO HOL Inspection Intell. Laboratory Plan. & Eval. Spec . Inv. Trainin g Legal Coun. Telepho ne Rm. Director Sec'y Wor Elliff's contact was with Supervisor P. V. Daly of the Legal Counsel Division. MAIL ROOM NW 65994 Docld:32989534 Page 3 TELETYPE UNIT یا ENCLOSURE 3A Pr 1.00.. ”
“WRO HOL Inspection Intell. Laboratory Plan. & Eval. Spec . Inv. Trainin g Legal Coun. Telepho ne Rm. Director Sec'y Wor Elliff's contact was with Supervisor P. V. Daly of the Legal Counsel Division. MAIL ROOM NW 65994 Docld:32989534 Page 3 TELETYPE UNIT یا ENCLOSURE 3A Pr 1.00.. ”
“mmittee) presiding. Representatives Pr eyer, Dodd, Fithian and Present: 13 Sawyer. 15 17 18 Als o pr esent: G. R. Blakey, G. Cornwell, E. Berning, D. Hardway, B. Wolf, M. Goldsmith, R. Morrison, R. Genzman, K. Klein and W. Cross. Mr. Preyer. (The Committee will come to orde r. Th”
“The' Committee is also concerned about the safety of several other possible witnesses. Therefore, we request 24-hour-a-day protection by the United States . Marshall Service for the following witnesses which the Committee has subpoenaed, intends to subpoena, has inter viewe”
“endations to the House, if the 001146 NMV 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 6. ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, I NC. 1-5 1 2 3 5 ό 7 00 Select Committee deems it appropriate, for the amendment o f e xisting legislation or the enactment of new legislation. I wou ld like, because of the specia”
“ld:32989641 Page 4 FRANK CHURCH, IDAHO. CHIAIRMAN JOWN G. TOWER, TEXAS, VIC: CHATRIM PHILIP A. HART, MICH. WALTER.F. MONDALE, ΜΙΝΗ, WALTER D. HUDOLESTON, Κ.Υ. ROOERT MORGAN, N.C. GARY HART, COLO. HOWARD H. JAKER, JR., TENN. PARRY GOLDWATER, ARIZ. CHARLES MCC. MATHIAS, JR., MD. RI”
“ble room that we can adjourn to, to carry on the executive sess ion, and we won't hav e t his de lay . 7 Mr. Sprague. Mr. Chairman, I think it would be a great 8 9 idea to try to have an alternate room to move to. Chairman Downing. Now, will everybody in the room not 10 a member ”