“Commission report. 29 Now as the first recommendation, I think that we have 23 agreed at the staff level to take out - the brackets and put a . 24 footnote which would, make it clear that while the primary 25 mission- of the CIA would be to collect denied, or protected fo”
“distribution within the United 20 States or its territories of any book, magazine, article, 21 publication, film, or video or audio tape unless attributed 22 ■ to. the CIA. 23 Wouldn't that take! care of it? .24 Mr. Aaron. If that is what the Committee intends, that 25”
“subsidy of any 'books, 22 magazines or other publications not attributed' to the CIA in- 23 side the United States. t. 24 Senator Huddleston. I think we can all accept that, can’t 25 we. NW 50955 DocId:32423513 Page 6”
“iwr SE-KCI 30 1 CIA prohibition" and you see the words "proposed" and 2 "statutory" are in brackets, reflecting uncertainty on our part o. as to whether it was the intention of the Committee that this 4 prohibition simply be a CIA regulation or embodied in the 5 statut”
“have a vote. Let's go back 20 to 46, and I take it that the' recommendation is that this 21 prohibition that the CIA .has imposed upon itself ought to 22 be written in statutory form. 23 Mr. Bader. That is the recommendation. 24 The Chairman. All right. Let's have a vot”
“TOP SECRET 44 1 Now, the obvious public relations value of Mr. Welch's i. . 2 death, the .first time in history the DDO and the DCI go to . 3 a funeral in public, they never did that, and there is no doubt 4 that they tried to make political hay out of his death. I 5 thi”
“22 Mr. Kirbow. But if I hear correctly what you are saying 23 then, we are out to protect the American media from being.made % 24 pregnant by the CIA and not worrying at all about the reading 25 public or the other,, but just the. media. HW 50955 DocId:32423513 Page 22”
“TOP SECRET 34 1 the. Committee that the CIA do it, because the CIA regulations 2 may or may not issue, and they can be changed at any time without notice. 4 Senator Tower. Well, Mr. Chairman, aren't we talking about 5 two different things? 6 I don't mean foreign, you ”
“TOP SECRET 19 1 Mr. Bader. The CIA? 2 Mr. Kirbow. Yes. 3 Mr. Bader. I would assume that they would have extended, 4 their prohibition to this, or on the other hand one could argue. 5 I don't know, what their motives' were. It could have been they 6 felt that this, the”
“policy. If we want to keep the 23 CIA out of U.S. media both at home and abroad, and we want 24 to extend, that to stringers as well, then I think it ought 25 to. be done by statute rather than just a recommendation by TOP SECRET WARD a PAUL HW 50955 DocId: 32423521 Page”
“TOP SECRET. Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 29 126 1 and this is what they feared all along, and the whole intelli 2 gence apparatus would be gravely -weakened and the men in the 3 field would be jeopardized by investigation of this kind. 4 ■We take that chance with this kind of”
“Pie SECRET 20 1 Senator Huddleston. The assumption is if the media of 2 the press is subverted, that it will affect the citizens, or 3 they will suffer.: 4 Senator Hart of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, in the interest 5 of expedition, I move the passage of these three recomme”
“is that the Committee 24 recommend that the CIA, by regulation, handle this matter 25 rather than make it statutory. TOP SECRET WARQ & PAUL NW 50955 DocId:32423521 Page 32”
“Sdoxes Gil TOP SECRET 109 -6000 12 Phone (Area 202) 1 They have fgivemussa good many documents, doThey nets. 2 have not given us the documents on the controversial matters. 3 They’ve given us plenty of documentation on less controversial 4 matters. 5 The Chairman. I t”
“statute, 20 by statute, which means by law, the CIA should be prohibited. 21 from using American,.media organizations for cover. We apparently 22 have 65 people, a portion of which are being used for cover, 23 and apparently they consider them to .be an essential asset, o”
““r -iF. i 45 re agreed upon at the Tfevpl that were left out. Mr. Aaron. I have on here. Mr. Kirbow. Well just for your information, there intents to be 'several things which were not just an occasional |one but several things that were agreed on at the staff level t”
“not be precluded and would still 22 exist. 93 Now it goes on to state that in doing this we would also 24 recommend authorizing the 'CIA' to carry out the recruitment of agents within the United States for this purpose. And it goes i 25 TOP SECRET ARD & FAUL NW 50955”
“Schwarz admitted, however, that some type of arrangement- would have to be made to insure that the Intelligence Community had some protection against unauthorized disclosures by staff j members of the SSC. _ / Enclosures WOC:ebe, CONTINUED - OVER (7) 202 1 ENCLOSURE 42 1”
“:A: fir. Aaron. I jure think st in drantine the charter n ; r 9 actually you can just say rott recommend by statute or you could say that the Committee recommends that it be removed or moved back - and- you can leave it to the PCI. to do it. 5 Senator Huddleston. lust”
“TOP SECRET 38 1 fowl of the other. 2 Senator Huddleston. I think; we've already said that ■ 3 pressures sometimes were brought to bear and we make recommenda- 4 tions to correct that. 5 Ms. Culbreath. Mr. Chairman, could I suggest that maybe if 6 we do delete that, tha”
“TOP SECRET 21 1 the CIA should be ' prohibited from using American media organiza- 2 tions for cover. 3 Senator Huddleston. . Well, the style of this ought to 4 be changed, it seems to me, because one of the recommendations. 5 instead of listed under recommendations, is”
“TOP SECRET 16 1 talking ■i about less than 25 people, where you are going to make 2 a statutory prohibition against use of all people in that 3 category because on page 61 it says, "of the 65 Americans 4 employed by the CIA in the media field, only a little over 5 one”
“Act. The Swing paper DIE TAT cotimatea the annual operating costs of the Central Intelligence Agency, employing 6,500 permanent and tens of thousands of temp orary spies, nt 300 mi lli on dllare.”
“w this matter to s ee whether we can not I have a 24 25 j ust eliminate that practice ent ir el y, c ontinuing the proprie- tary and continuing the use of p rivate investigators as cover :: Photocopy fr om Gerald Ford Library TOP SECRET SR. FORD LIBRAR NW 66 000 Docld:32112724 Pa”
“exception, I would have told you up until the beginning of this current public discussion, that 24 was the way it went, and that nothing went outside it, and 25 that the Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agencies, with TOP SECRET HW 50955 DocId:32123106 Page 2.”
“TOP SECRET 72 .1 note that back on page 67 where we have struck out the reference 2 to Mr. Raborn and intend to expand on the pressures having 5 been brought to bear, part of that expansion should include 4 a statement’ that there is no — or that the Federal Disposal 5 ”
“TOP SECRET 29 1 Senator Tower.- No. 2 Mr. Miller. Mr. Church? 5 The Chairman. Aye. 4 Senator Tower. I don’t think it is going to affect the 5 outcome, so I ask consent that he be recorded. 6 Mr. Miller. The ayes have it. It is six to four. Mr. '7 Mathias is still in”
“with the CIA as it sees fit on an individual agency basis. His motion carried and the Council proceeded to other business. SECRET”
“information it would disclose." Mr. Hoover, the FBI. direct tor, approved the bug The Senate Select C ommittee on Intelligence cites t”
“operations such as those that led our country into the most counterproductive covert operation in our nation's • history — the war in Vietnam. Did the secrecy imposed by Bellino with in your Committee advance the security of the United States? Or did it insure the greatest h”
“strictly political matters. We believe that, at a minimum, when CIA is asked for a memorandum that inquiries should be made of SKORET - 27 -”
“essential 23 to the intelligence collection processes of the CIA, and it ( 24 singles out a specific agency which is not doing any harm to 25 NW 50955 DocId:32423513 Page 11 -”
“2609 42i (X 1 TOP SECRET J W ■ Phone (Area 282) 544-6000 63 ' 1 posed a major threat to maintain cover, both in the United N S 2 States and abroad for CIA agents. 3 Now the question I raise is are we cutting off our nose 4 to spite our face by using computers t”
“TOP SECRET 37 1 Mr. Miller. Mr. Hart of Colorado’. 2. Senator Hart of Colorado. Aye. 3 Mr. Miller. Mr. Baker. 4, Senator Baker. Aye.s 5 Mr. Miller. Mr. Goldwater. 6 Senator Tower. No by proxy. 7 Mr. Miller. Mr. Mathias. 8 ■ (No response.) 9 Mr. Miller. Mr. Schw”
“more jhretthatsas-de vo. th * r* t.e - : :: - E1.. 17 : 1 2 Mr. Halley. No. I answered that, that I don’t recall 3Iany such conversation where Helms told me could or could not I mean, ■ ' this was not a, subject that was being discossed. x think the frame of reference at”
“of course, we have laws which say 23 you can’t destroy material. I would say that the safeguards 24 lagain come back to the basic integrity of the people in the 25 organization. When you lose a President, you do not mess 00P otLKET ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY HW 50955 Do”
“IUR DCLAEI 3 1 The reason for that is because the transcript frequently 2 will contain classified information and the Agency prefers for 3 that information to be kept in our secure area here. So I 4 would like to ask you to waive your right to receive a copy of j 5 your”
“out there. The four that are hot are the Congress Lor %5 oversight and the CIA budget paper, although the budget section TOP SECRET VARD 2 PAUL NW 50955 DocId:32423509 Page 70”
“9/1, 16 Mr. laxwell. Fliese/roreetiel frill narairapb on 33 the way it reads, it assumes that the Director the Central Intelligence agency who is outside the clandestine service is not able to 4 ensure Mr. Aaron. I understand. You’re right. Okay, if these are agreed t”
“THE PERTINENT OBSERVATION THAT IT WAS A QUESTION FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DECIDE. IF IT WAS DECIDED TO SUBORDINATE CLAN- DESTINE ITELLIGENCE OPERATIONS IN THE FIELD DIRECTLY TO THE "APPROPRIATE : GEMENT COULD AND WOULD BE MADE. THE 93 I PRESSION BY MR. AARON THAT. AT LEA St ”
“TOP SECRET 8 . 1. Mr. Kirbow. Well, perhaps I misunderstand the extension 2 that you, your full recommendation. 5 Do you want to go beyond where the administration is in 4 their position? 5 Mr. Bader. I am recommending to go beyond where the '6 Administration is at th”
“people, including people 22 who are and have been for some time proscribed by CIA's own 23 Senator Huddleston. Well, anyway, that would be worked 24 out in the statute itself. 25 Mr. Aaron. We are spared the problem. . TewEA CEADLT NW 50955 - DocId: 32423513 Page 33”
“h *** r ! D r -: E D IN C S Senator Huddleston •ot is come to order. Mr. Aaron. The agenda today is to proceed with the DCI i 4■ I section and in addition we would like to get the Subcommittee’s : 5 if you will substantive arrroval of the paper on the production j o”
“rel 4 *#:itV* bl it doesn’t Senator Mathias. I think on page 36 and 39 it ought to refer to domestic operations. A ; Mr. Kirbow. I think we might want to consider too that 5 there’s an extensive section of the domestic activities of the 6 CIA coming into the domestic t”
“iemployees? Mr. Kirbow. Well if r could tell vou what my position on it is, in speaking, to. Both Bloomfield last night I specificall 1 iasked her -well, she savs that's to.give them something out • F there to take out so that we’ll have enough left in here that 6 would”
“es primarily to apprise the employee of his or her dilemma. OGC will request further advice from the Attorney General. Should the most pessimistic development come to pass, the situation will be more political than legal. The رد fact is that time is of the essence, and any stretc”
“that was giving us cover, and f or reasons of overload we as ked them to have their own people to d o a few of the investigations. 21 22 23 24 25 just eliminate th at pra ctice entirely, continuing the proprie- tary and continuing the use of priv ate i nve stigators as cover :: P”
“TOP SECRET 33 1 Senator Tower. What about Reader's Digest Selecciones, 2 which is their Spanish publication? Is that included? o Mr. Aaron, I assume so. 4 The Chairman. Well, according to the CIA's own restric- 5 tions, it is excluded now, except this would simply 6 ”
“TOP SECRET 76 1 others, recommended very strongly that there be more unofficial 2 cover.. 3 I think the Agency has been under considerable pressure 4 throughout its existence to do that, and as Joe pointed out 5 there are certain limits to what it has been able to do. 6 ”
“TOP SECRET 40 1 our recommendations. -dlb 2 Mr. Aaron. Okay. begin 2a 3 Mr. Maxwell. Well, Charlie, correct me. I think the 4 proprietary section would be the appropriate section because 5 that would be where it came up most,,unless there is another 6 one that you see mo”