“they did. 20 Mr. Wides. When Mr. Shackley was the station chief, did 21 22 you report to him or someone seise? Mr. Sarno. I reported to ray branch chief. 23 Mr. Wides. And what was: that branch? 24 Mr. Sarno. FI Branch, Foreign Intelligence. 25 HW 50955 DocId: 32 202”
“use my judgment, seek out persons who might be of interest, and take advantage of opportunities which might arise; that I would be given recruited agents to handle as the need arose; that, per the limitation concerning my cover, I was not to engage in actual recruitments, but was”
“regarding the 20 penetration of our own organization. And we worked down to an 21 identity. And the FBI disagreed with us. And I am talking 22 about not a few minutes, but several weeks and months f work. 4 1 0 First Str 23 And the Bureau's attitude was, you have got th”
“SECKET 62 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 1 Of course, if these people went out and did something on 2 their own, they could do things we were not aware of, obviously. 3 You can’t — you know what they are doing during their eight or 4 ‘i ten hours that they are going to work ev”
“testified under oath was obvious that FBI and CIA that he didn't know "Saul." were compromised at the very top since both Agencies denied knowledge of "Saul", Noone wan :ed to hear anymore about him.”
“TOP SECRET 46 (A 83202) 544-6000 1 Mr. Sarno. Domestic Operations. ‘0 2 d (Discussion off the record.) P hone 5 Mr. Wides. With regard to the information received from ■ 4 the former in New York about the plot to shoot a bazooka 5 at the UN, was Mr. Shackley the S”
“mbh 1 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 SECRET I - ! PRESIDENT’S COMMISSION 2 i ON CIA ACTIVITIES 4= ! Langley, Virginia - Wednesday, April 16, 1975 €t. Deposition of WILLIAM C. STURBITTS, called for 71 -i examination by Counsel for the Commission on CIA Activities, .8; ”
“SECKET 62 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 Of course, if these people went out and did something on 2 their own, they could do things we were not aware of, obviously. 3 You can’t — you know what they are doing during their eight or 4 1 ten hours that they are going to work ever”
“ne ral, SCHMIT stated that he could not really r ecall the specifics, but probably discussed t he pr ograms we were conducting such as SAM, SUN, GUS and Z, because in effect we were telling the Attorney General what accomplishments we were making, so SCHMIT felt that these would ”
“mbh 1 Phone (Area 202} 544-6000 SECRET 1 — 1 PRESIDENT’S COMMISSION 2 , ON CIA ACTIVITIES • ! Langley, Virginia Wednesday, April 16, 1975 6 Deposition of WILLIAM C. STURBITTS, called for J examination by Counsel for the Commission on CIA Activities, 8 J the witne”
“rich experience in counterintelligence. 12 And normally I kept outside leaks to anybody in the business inion, O.C. 20003 19 I had men who stayed with me for 11 years, Rocca was with 20 me for 31 years, even though they went into operational situa- 21 410 First Street, ”
“arranged to have Wiley call Cecil Tighe, SRS, the following Monday and for Tighe to advise Wiley to come to Washington in the near future to discuss the matter with Tighe and Gaynor. Apparently, Allen was removing himself from contact with Wiley at about this time. Apparent”
“saw the most? It was perfectly natural 21 for him to spend his weekends with these people. 22 Mr. Schwarz. And so he was a natural and helpful asset. 23 But how was it arranged that he would work for the CIA, and th 24 lay that question against the instruction from Presi”
“13-00000 - ----- FT de OVERSEAS FaMiLi article have not sought to reluiu or confirm each and every assertion made by its author, Thomas C. Lucey, Mr. Lucey, despite his citing a'substantial number of inaccuracies, has nonetheless depicted a vast area of what may be termed the”
“IDEN A CONCLUDED THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE USEFUL TO TAKE WHITTEN'S DEPOSITION AT A LATER DATE. ALTHOUGH WHITTEN HAD IN GENERAL A GOOD MEMORY, IDEN A FELT HE DID NOT ADD ANYTHING 0 *OF SIGNIFICANCE TO HIS PRIOR TESTIMONY BEFORE THE<HSCA.> AFTER THE INTERVIEW, WHITTEN TO”
“mbh 1 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 SECRET 1 — 1 PRESIDENT’S COMMISSION 21 ON CIA ACTIVITIES A 4z ! Langley, Virginia - • J Wednesday, April 16, 1975 6 1 Deposition of WILLIAM C. STURBITTS, called for 71 examination by Counsel for the Commission on CIA Activities, 6”
“14-00000 g2 % SECURITY INFORMATION SECRET 25 January 1952 REMORANDOH FoRi THE RECORD SUBJECT: Backstopping of Cover by the Research Institute of America 1. Pursuant to conversations between Mr. Rose and Mr. Engels of CIA/ope and Mr. Travis of 00/Contacts, an appoint”
“erview as they had to introduce themselves to her. The attornies' names were JIM DICK and TOM DAWSON . Regarding his conference with former Attorney General ROBERT F. KENNEDY, SCHMIT stated that at the time of this con- ference there was a general criminal intelligence conference”
“feeling of being vulnerable. Physically he is not well; he is paralyzed on .his left side and has great difficulty walking. On a map, hers pointed out his apartment and indicated what he believed to be. serious threats to his safety should his affiliation with CIA become kno”
“***07Y***AGOB Feb. 11, 197,5 n STATEMENT Osborn Mr. Vice-President, Governor Reagan, distinguished AT*7 members of this Commission. I am here willingly at your invitation; I shall answer all of your questions fully and candidly. My federal service has extended over a 3”
“TOP SECRET 23 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 1 defecotrs which you believe to be questionable as to whether 2 i or not it comes within the charter of the CIA? 5 MR. MARCHEETI: No.. As I say, I have no first hand 4 ! knowledge on this subject. 5 You remember the w case? 6 ”
“you aware of his ever having been on the 20 21 payroll of the CIA? 3 Mr. Halley. I personally am not aware of it, and I think, 22 you know,if ybu had gone to the Agency that they -must 'have ’given 23 you all sorts of traces on this fellow and told you the same 24 25 ”
“would be denied as an employee of the Central Intelligence Agency from the date he entered on duty through the date of his departure. Attachment E is a personal letter received from Mr. Whitten after he was notified that his name might be released in connection with declass”
““ni’ fits Vn I % e # Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 0 YOn mean a source of — Il n Source of information of another agent. Another agency agent. / 0. Do the files of the Agency reflect any matter? 5 A To my knowledge I don’t recall anything like that but A C: ■ it is en”
“0 0 1 WF0X65-8517-44 d AWn. J/Jc/mfm 57 TABLE OF CONTENTS MS Page I. ICIA EFFORTS TO PENETRATE U$si- 00 II. INTERVIEW OF JOSEPH BURK, CHIEF, (COUNTERINTELLIGENCE, RESEARCH AND (S) I ANALYSIS, TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES 9 JDEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR PLANS, CIA * 71 - 5 - 13 ”
“would be denied as an employee of the Central Intelligence Agency from the date he entered on duty through the date of his departure. Attachment E is a personal letter received from Mr. Whitten after he was notified that his name might be released in connection with declass”
“WOLSTON. These names had been submitted to Subject based upon pure conjecture that there possibly might have been some connection with these individuals at Camp Ritchie Military Intelligence Training Center. Since the fact that both — Jerry SEVERN and Ilya WOLSTON have cooperat”
“and Agee's writings about the CIA are also well known. It is to be expected that those who read I the Scelso report would then turn to Agee's book. John F. Pereira 5 SECRET”
“41 to r 544-ence 1 Mr. Wallasoh. Did somebody tell youtthat the PBI had primary jurisdiction? Pratos(rvea 2 3 Mr. Halley. No, but the FBI has primary jurisdiction * 4 this is something we are taught in our training courses, in * the United States, vou know, for case”
“riminal Division at the time. NW 65994 Docld:32175678 Page 5 TVP SECRET -2- NY 105-146601 TOP SECRET Regarding what he discussed with the Attorney General, SCHMIT stated that he could not really recall the specifics, but probably discussed the programs we were conducting such as ”
“be denied as an employee of the Central Intelligence Agency from the date he entered on duty through the date of his departure. Attachment E is a personal letter received from Mr. Whitten after he was notified that his name might be released in connection with declassificat”
“worked for the Agency in his application for employment with USIA. WH Division, to whom this request was forwarded, was advised the PERRY was not to diselosa his cast employment with this Agency, a Division, in turn, informed Security or their desires that USIA be informed of”
“contacts with a number of important people in politics, entertainment, business, sports and society. He said he is a personal friend of enter tainer Frank SINATRA. Mr , HUGHES claimed that people are always calling on him for political and business favors. These people think”
“I. 1 I ■w.mamuMWawry ATTACHMENT - 0CEODET - OLUREt OGC 79-02042 1 March 1979 . MEMORANDUM FOR 1 Chief, Counterintelligence Staff FROM 2 John A. Rizzo Assistant General Counsel - SUBJECT I Financial Commitments to PDDONOR/1 "4. 1. This is in response to your me”
“14-00000 c. Item 17 - William Harvey - Approximately 50 documents, virtually all of which concern the estab- lishment, maintenance, and use of cover for Subject during his career with the Agency as a Staff Employee from 1947 to 1967. d. Item 27 (1) International Rescue Co”
“relationship whatsoever between the CIA and Mr. Hall either as an employee or an independent contractor. ...fails to disclose any record of any secrecy agreement....so far as this Agency is concerned we see no reason at this time why Mr. Hall should not feel free to fully res”
“14-00000 5/01 c. Item 17 - William Harvey Approximately 50 documents, virtually all of which concern the estab lishment, maintenance, and use of cover for Subject 4 during his career with the Agency as a Staff Employee from 1947 to 1967. d. Item 27 (1) International Res”
“1 DIRECTOR, FBI 12/30/58 SAC, NEW YORK (134-new) On 11/24/58,s O was interviewed. by SAS ROBERT F. LAUDWEIN and JOHN G. WILLIS at his residence, Apartment -‘---‘* St., NYC. • ■ ,‘ - The interview with spiasen was conducted pur- suant to Bureau telephone call to NYO o”
“19 Mr. Schwarz. You said Warren Commission. You mean 20 Rockefeller? 21| Mr. Angleton. Excuse me, Rockefeller. . . 22 4 1 0 F ir s t S tre e t, There are 20 some odd cases that a counterinte11igence 23 il officer in our busienss should know before he even begins to ”
“14-00000' 4-61-88 109859 B##46188 CE Seroceyjiv. T 25 March 1970 ceet Mm FOR TaE RECCAD th Subject: World Associates, Ine, (Hugh McDonald) 1. McDonald asked me to meet with him on 24 Mar 70. I did. He started the conversation by stating, ‘We arc getting bigger all t”
“Mr. Houston, your reputation over the some twenty-six 22 twenty-eight years you were General Counsel was one of intense 23 loyalty to the Director and the Deputy Director of the Agency. 24 Mr. Houston. That is correct. 25 TOP SECRET HW 50955 DocId: 32202414 Page 3”
“proceed to 73 the substance of the questioning. What is your present position 24 with the CIA? 45 -H G Mr. Tovar. I am the Chief of the Counterintelligence NW 48331 DocId: 32277210 Page 5 TOP SECRET”
“t 119 o P TOP SECRET 2 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 0 PROCEEDINGS; to Mr. Baron. Mr. Halley, is it true that you are here 1 testifying today under alias, and that Halley is not ectually your true identity?, Mr. Halley. That is correct. 0 O. Mr. Baron. Your true ide”
“TOP SECRET P h o n e (A re a 2 0 2 ) 5 4 4 -6 0 0 0 114 1 Mr. Schwarz. Now, that purports to be from LTG Bennett 2 no Colonel Wune.cis / and has the text in it which you sent on o tto Colonel Wimero7 4 Mr. Phillips. Yes. 5 Mr. Schwarz. And what is your best recollectio”
“TOP SECRET 22 P hone (A re a 2 0 2 ) 5 4 4 -6 0 0 0 1 kind of cases which CIA had with Justice, and the referrals, 2 and you had gone through one. And I wondered if you wanted o to go through the other two. 4 Mr. Houston. All right. 5 The second one was quite an intere”
“impression I had when I left him was at 20 variance with what I had heard before I came in, where I heard 21 he and AM-CieIor he at least had been active in West Germany 22 in wet affairs, particularly kidnappings and that sort of 23 thing. 24 Mr. Baron. And you carried ”
“had a special operational unit, and was 22 made head of the counter Intel 1igence.% 23/ * Mr. Schwarz. In the period beginning in 1954 and lasting 24 until 1974, when you left the Agency, did you have any 25 relationship — is the Israeli account the wrong way to say it? ”
“S.E..Wasunston..D.C.,20001 19 officer threatening one of the people we areedealing with 20 in the.Mid-west, he was from the United Nations, a young 21 KGB fellow. And I asked the Bureau, was he a % ? 22 And they said, we put him to bed. kpr-aeirseekiseASryin. 4 1 0 . E”
“to this request but was unable to reach Mr. Brooten until this date, since he was out of town. $ дев 2. I reached Mr. Brooten in his office in Florida and identified myself to him as representing the Office of Legislative Counsel of the CIA. I reminded him of the last time we had”
“CIA until 1973 for expenses, but was paid $253,000 in cash by Morris Bishop when he was terminated. WARNING NOTICE SENSITIVE INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND METHODS INVOLVED SECRET RECORD CY E2 IMPDET CL BY 025231 RETURN TO CIA Background Use Only Do Not Reproduce LX-4229 21 77 201-3129”