“MMARY Page 1 of 6 FILE: INTERVIEW WITH RICHARD GOODWIN Date: May 27, 1975 SENSITIVE Time: 10:00 a.m. Place: Goodwin's residence, 1536 32nd St. NW Participants: Sel. Com. David Aaron, Rick Inderfurth, Greg Treverton Subject: Intelligence Activities in Latin America Submitted by: G”
“*3” 1 TESTIMONY OF RICHARD M. GOODWIN 2 Mr. Goodwin. Richard M. Goodwin, 1536 32nd Street, N.W., 1 3 Washington, D.C. 4 Mr. Schwarz. And as a matter of course, we tell all of 5 our witnesses what they no doubt know, that they have their 6 right to counsel, and you know tha”
“ND MEETING SUMMARY INTERVIEW WITH RICHARD GOODWIN Goodwin Ex Z Page 1 of 6 SENSITIVE (6\binom{3}{3}) Date: May 27, 1975 Time: 10:00 a.m. Goodwin's residence, 0153632nd St. NW Place: Participants: Sel. Com. David Aaron, Rick Inderfurth, Greg Treverton Subject: Intelligence Activit”
“/ INTERVIEW AND MEETING SUMMARY Page 1_ of 6 - 00 15 2 INTERVIEW WITH RICHARD GOODWIN Date: May 27, 1975 Time: .1 SENS UL- 10:00 a.m. U FILE: Place: Goodwin’s residence, 1536 32nd St. NW Participants: Sel. Com. - David Aaron, Rick Inder furth, Greg Treverton Subj”
“FILE: CIA HAS NO OBJECTION TO DECLASSIFICATION AND/OR RELEASE OF THIS DOCUMENT AS SANITIZED foreign During the 1960 Presidential campaign, Goodwin did policy work for John Kennedy, specializing in Latin America. After the election he moved into the White House to handle Latin Ame”
“r. Goldsmith. At th is time, I would like to r efer to 24 Exhibit 94. Would the Clerk please hand th at to the witness? 25 Miss Good pa st ure - 001148 ALDERSO N REPORTING COMPANY, INC. NW 66000 D ocld:32277224 Page 8 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUI LDI NG, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20”
“rue . I am retired. 15 Mr.Goldsmith. W ere you formerly employed with the lá Central Intelligenc e A gency? 17 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes. 18 Mr. Goldsmith. What was yo ur ter m o f s erv ice with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpasture. What was my term of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How man”
“call the witness at this time? 25 M r. Goldsmith. I have some statements. I would like to 001 144 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 300 7TH STREET, S.W. RE PORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off the record. (Discussi”
“e ady to call the witness at this time? 25 Mr. Goldsmith. I have some statemen ts. I would like to 0 01144 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPORTING C OMP ANY. INC. 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTO N, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off the r ecor”
“17 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes . 18 Mr. Goldsmith. Wh at was your term of service with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. G oodpastur e. Wha t was my te rm of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many years were yo u w ith the CIA? Ms. Goodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsmit h. At this time, I would like to”
“the Clerk please hand that to the witness? 25 Miss Goodpasture - 001148 ALDER SON REPORTING COMPANY, INC. NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 8 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 Ms. Goodpasture. I read this yesterday. Mr. Goldsmith. 1-7”
“ce Agency? 17 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes. 18 Mr. Goldsmith. What was your term of service with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpasture. What was my term of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many years were you with the CIA? Ms. Goodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsmith. At this time, I would like ”
“with the lá Central Intelligence Agency? 17 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes. 18 Mr. Goldsmith. What was your t erm of se rvice with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpasture. What was my term of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many years were you with the CIA? Ms. Goodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsm”
“e. I am retired. 15 Mr.Goldsmith. Were you formerly employed with the lá Central Intellig en ce A ge ncy? 17 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes. 18 Mr. Goldsmith. What was your term of service with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpasture. What was my term of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many years”
“erton CIA HAS NO OBJECTION TO DECLASSIFICATION AND/OR RELEASE OF THIS DOCUMENT AS SANITIZED 5 NOV 93 During the 1960 Presidential campaign, Goodwin did foreign policy work for John Kennedy, specializing in Latin America. After the election he moved into the White House to handle ”
“dpasture. Yes. 18 Mr . Goldsmith. What was your term of service with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpasture. What w as my term of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many y ea rs were you with the CIA? Ms. Goodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Go ld sm it h. A t t hi s t ime , I wo uld like to refe”
“Goodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsmith. At this time, I would like to ref er to 24 Exhibit 94. Woul d the Clerk please hand that to the witness? 25 Miss Goodpasture - 001148 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC. NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 8 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, W”
“m will be cleared of all unauthorized personnel. 24 Are you ready to call the witness at th is time? 25 Mr. Goldsmith. I have some statements. I would like to 001144 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTO”
“rest permanent ly with the complete st ory. I ju st wanted you to know that we have been wor kin g 2 3 24 with the CIA and the FBI and they have been very cooperative with us as well as the State Department ind the two investi- 25 gations in which we are now engaged, and I look f”
“Page 4 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUI LDI NG, WA SHI NGT ON, D. C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness please stand to be 1-3 sworn? Ms. Goodpasture. I have one problem.”
“? 25 Miss Goodpasture - 001 148 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC. NW 66000 Docld:32277224 P age 8 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 Ms. Goodpasture. I read this yesterday. Mr. Goldsmith. 1-7 -- Ex hibit No. 94 is a copy of a lette”
“5 Mr.Goldsmith. Were you formerly employe d wi th th e lá Ce ntr al Int el lig enc e A gen cy? 17 Ms . Goodpasture. Yes. 18 Mr. Goldsmith. What was your term of service with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpasture. What was my term of service? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many years were you ”
“oodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsmith. At this tim e, I w oul d l ike to ref er to 24 Exh ibi t 9 4. Would the Clerk please hand that to the witness? 25 Miss Goodpasture - 001148 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC. NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 8 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDI”
“t employment status, 13 Miss Goodpasture? 14 Ms. Goodpastru e. I am retired. 15 Mr.Goldsmith. Were y ou formerly employed with the lá Ce ntral Intelligence Agency? 17 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes. 18 Mr. Goldsmith. What was your term of servic e with the 19 CIA? 20 M s. G oo dpasture. Wh”
“hat was your term of service with the 19 CIA? 20 Ms. Goodpastu re. W ha t wa s my te rm of s erv ice ? 21 22 Mr. Goldsmith. How many years were you with the CIA? Ms. Goodpasture. Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsmith. At this time, I would like to refer to 24 Exhibit 94. Would the Clerk plea”
“o 001144 NW 66000 Docld:3 2277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 3 00 7TH STREET, S.W. REPO RTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness please stand to be 1-3 sworn? Ms. Go”
“incriminate people. The Clerk will call the r oll on the motion. The Clerk. Mr. Preyer? Mr. Preyer. Aye. The Clerk. Mr. Thone? (No response) The Clerk. Mr. Sawyer? Mr. Sawyer. Aye. The Clerk. Mr. Dodd? (No response) The Clerk. Mr. Fithian? Mr. Fithian. Aye. The Clerk. Three ayes,”
“ared of all unauthorized personnel. 24 Are you ready to call the witness at this time? 25 Mr. Go lds mith. I have some statements. I would like to 00114 4 N W 66000 Docld:3 2277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPOR TIN G COMPANY. INC. 3 00 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDI NG, WASHINGTON, D.”
“No response) The C le rk . Mr . Sa wy er? M r. Sa wye r. Aye . T he Cle rk. Mr . D odd ? ( No respon se) The Clerk. Mr. Fithian? Mr. Fithian. Aye. The Clerk. Three ayes, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Preyer. The meeting is declared closed and the 23 room will be cleared of all unauthorized p”
“Over 31. 23 Mr. Goldsmith. At this time, I wou ld l ik e to re fe r to 2 4 E xhi bit 94 . W oul d t he Clerk please hand that to the witness? 25 Miss Goodpasture - 001148 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC. NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 8 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASH”
“h the complete story. I just wanted you to know that we have been working 23 24 with the CIA and the FBI and they have been very cooperative with us as well as the State Department ind the two investi- 25 gations in which we are now engaged, and I look forward to 001147 NW 66000 ”
“TON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2 345 12 Ms Goodpasture. Pardon me? • Mr. Goldsmith. What is yo ur pre sen t employment status, 13 Miss Goodpasture? 14 Ms. Goodpastrue. I a m retired. 15 Mr.Goldsmith. Were you forme rly employed with the lá Central Int elligence Agency? 17 Ms. Goodpast”
“e record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness please stan d t o b e 1 -3 swo rn? Ms. Goodpasture. I have one problem. I cannot hear. 6 Mr. Fithian. Can you hear if I come through at this 7 level? 00 Ms. Goodpastrue. 9 Yes. I use a hearing aid. It is not al”
“e to 001144 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPORT ING COMPANY. INC. 300 7TH STREET, S.W. RE PORTERS BUILDING, W ASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-234 5 1 2 3 5 make off t he record. (Discus sio n off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness please s tan d to be 1-3 swor”
“. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C . 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off the record. (Discu ssi on off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness pl eas e stand to be 1-3 sworn? Ms. Goodpasture. I have one problem. I c annot hear. 6 Mr. Fith ian . Can you hear if I come thr”
“y t he Com mittee , that the evid ence or testimony may tend to degrade o r incriminate people. The Clerk will call the roll on the motion. The Clerk. Mr. Preyer? Mr. Preyer. Aye. The Clerk. Mr. Thone? (No res ponse) The Clerk. Mr. Sawyer? Mr. Sawyer. Aye. The Clerk. Mr. Dodd? (N”
“held in E xecutive Session. This is on the basis that information obtained by the Committ ee , that the evidence or testimony may tend to d egrade or incriminate peopl e. The Clerk will call the roll on the motion. The C le rk . Mr. Preyer? Mr. Preyer. Aye. The Clerk. Mr. Thone? ”
“uld like to 001144 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 4 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 300 7TH STREET, S .W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off t he rec ord. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witne ss pl ease stand to be 1-3 s”
“10 do not want to waste too much of yours. !! 12 Mr. Fithian . We will need to swear you in, Ms. Go od- pasture. Ms.Goodpasture. Do you want me to stand? 13 14 Mr. Fithian. Yes, please stand. 15 Do you swear that the information you are abo ut to 16 give to this Committee is the ”
“000 Docld:32277224 Page 5 300 7T H STR EET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 55 4-2345 1-4 1 2 3 4 5 0 7 0 9 10 11 12. 13 14 15 ló 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TESTIMONY OF ANN GOODPASTURE Mr. Goldsmith. Would you state your name and address for the record? Ms.”
“st permanently with the complete st or y. I just wanted you to know that we have been working 23 2 4 with the CIA and the FBI and they have been very cooperative with us as well as t he S ta te De partment ind the two investi- 25 gations in which we are now engaged, and I look fo”
“rd to 001147 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 7 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 9 (Y) 6 7 3 4 S 2 1 1-6 your testimony today as a person of longstanding and long experience with one of the key agencies in the United States government ament and hope that we can proceed today to fit i”
“ture. Y es. 00 114 5 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 5 300 7TH STREET , S .W. R EP OR TE RS BUI LD IN G, W ASHIN GTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1-4 1 2 3 4 5 0 7 0 9 1 0 11 12. 13 14 15 ló 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TESTIMONY OF A NN GOODPASTURE Mr ”
“off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness please stand to be 1-3 sworn? Ms. Goodpasture. I hav e one problem. I cannot hear. 6 Mr. Fithian. Can you hear if I co me through at this 7 level? 00 Ms. Goodpastrue. 9 Ye s. I use a hearing aid. It is not always reliable. I do n ot”
“ING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1 2 3 5 make off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. Fithian. Would the witness please stand to be 1-3 sworn? Ms. Goodpasture. I have one problem. I cannot hear. 6 Mr. Fithian. Can you hear if I come through at this 7 level? 00 ”
“h the complete story. I j ust w an te d yo u to kn ow th at we have be en wor kin g 2 3 2 4 w ith th e CIA and the FBI and they have been very cooperative with us as well as the State Department ind the two investi- 25 gations in which we are now engaged, and I look forward to 00”
“esti- 25 gations in which we are now engaged, and I look forward to 001147 NW 66000 Docld:32 277 224 Page 7 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. 9 (Y) 6 7 3 4 S 2 1 1-6 your testimony today as a person of lo ngstanding and lo ng exp erience with one of the key agencies in the United ”
“hat we hav e been working 23 24 with the CIA and the FBI and they have been very cooperative with us as well as th e State Department ind the two investi- 25 gations in which we are now engaged, and I loo k forward to 001147 NW 66000 Docld:32277224 Page 7 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPA”
“tee is the truth, the whole truth and 17 nothing but the truth, so help you God? 18 1 9 20 2 1 22 23 24 25 Ms. Goodpasture. Yes. 001145 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. NW 66000 Docld:322772 24 Page 5 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTER S BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345”
“24 25 Ms. G oodpasture. Yes. 00114 5 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. INC. NW 66000 Docld:32 27 72 24 Pa ge 5 300 7TH STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILDING, WASHINGTON , D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 1-4 1 2 3 4 5 0 7 0 9 10 11 12. 13 14 15 ló 17 1 8 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TESTIMONY OF ANN GOODPA”